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For the turn of the trope, It s a malady, Not a melody, But for the turn of the trope. *** Clearly Greg is located not 100m from my desk. Raki_Man Posted: 04-Dec-2007 19:06 Posts: 937 Registered: 26/11/00 3 Storm in a teacup! Give them all a proper job! Sugoi Posted: 04-Dec-2007 19:54 Posts: 2, 244 Registered: 22/03/01 4 no way - the thought that there could be two Gregs in this world is scary holiday in wales

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Posted: 04-Dec-2007 22:43 Posts: 7, 969 Registered: 12/07/05 5 It pains me deeply to concede this ... but I agree with Raki_Man. Not only is it a storm in a teacup, but the Coordinator has already lost by (a) trying to manage via (public) email, and (b) entering into the ludicrous musical repartee. If she is Greg s Coordinator (and has formal authority as such) she should tell him what the situation is, and if he doesn t like she will welcome his resignation that afternoon. Full stop, no correspondence to be entered into etc etc. These things can be done, and if Greg runs scurrying to higher management - or goodness gracious - to the union, then the Coordinator becomes even more resolute in laying down the law. And none of that backsliding BS about not being the corporate culture . As I said - managers are paid to manage, an entering an email war means she has lost! All easy to say from here, of course. holiday wales

Posted: 04-Dec-2007 22:46 6 ianw6705 wrote: These things can be done, and if Greg runs scurrying to higher management - or goodness gracious - to the union, LOL Posted: 04-Dec-2007 22:59 7 Ian: (a) Greg made the email public, not the co-ord (b) co-ord is not Greg s superior. I don t care if iyts a storm in a teacup or not _ I don t give a shit about any of that, or the issue. Just struck by the writing style of Greg! cottage holiday in wales

Posted: 04-Dec-2007 23:03 8 (a) extra - in fact Cord rebuked Greg for extending the CC list to the world, sent it back to Greg who then reinstated all the cc s for the next instalment . (c) Co-ord didn t introduce the musical analogy - Greg did....but picked the wrong person who pinged him with far superior musical knowledge. All in all, Gregish language and Gregish spamming behaviour..... Posted: 04-Dec-2007 23:05 caravan holiday in wales

9 ....and every workplace has these intermittent spats, public or not. Over in a day. That, I repeat, is not the issue. The fact that I work with Greg, is. chrisj Posted: 04-Dec-2007 23:06 Posts: 2, 403 Registered: 09/11/01 10 larc / SammmisGhost / sammmi: pay attention! SammmisGhost Posted: 07-Dec-2007 11:46 Posts: 9 Registered: 01/12/07 camping holiday wales

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- Pages: 1 - Last Post: 22-Dec-2007 19:19 Last Post By: Yakkalot yoda9999 Posted: 19-Dec-2007 22:58 Posts: 73 Registered: 09/06/07 Click to report abuse... Click to reply to this thread Print this Thread I know it sounds crazy, but I figure when it s safe, it would be an interesting walk on the new 1000km ring road highway. I imagine people could organize a large group of walkers and get government and corporate sponsors to support and publicize the event. The walk can generate publicity and raise awareness in Afghan business, tourism, travel, transportation, promote charities, cultural understanding, peace, rural development, geography, environment, foreign aid, etc. I think many Afghan and foreign interests can profit from such an event. President Karzai and local leaders can use such an event to show Afghanistan is a safer and stabler country. accommodation holiday wales

Sure there is danger from warlords, bandits and bad Taliban. But maybe the security situation in the south will improve next year. Not everyone in the south is bad. Just something I thought up. chitralguy Posted: 20-Dec-2007 04:43 Posts: 672 Registered: 10/05/05 1 Bonsoir mon ami, It s a great idea, and a very noble cause, but it s dicey, central route (Herat, Jam, Chaghchiran, Bamiyan) is fine, but taking the Herat, Kandahar route, let s see what s there for us in the year 2008. holiday last minute wales

Bon voyage, Photos of Pakistan jcravens42 Posted: 20-Dec-2007 06:25 Posts: 89 Registered: 10/02/03 2 My jaw dropped over this. Don t you remember the large group of South Koreans that went by bus from Kabul to Kandahar, with similar altruistic intensions Remember the murders of some of them by the Taliban, the millions of dollars that had to be paid by the government for them to be released, the thousands of aid workers whose life was put in much greater danger because of the situation (including myself), the restricted movement by aid workers who were critically needed in the field, and on and on And you want to do essentially the SAME THING ! catering holiday self wales

I cannot think of even one Afghan government official who would think this is a good idea. The south is NOT going to be safer next year. And the Afghan government is committed to NOT allowing this kind of misguided activity by foreigners from happening again. holiday wales walking

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Posted: 20-Dec-2007 18:40 Posts: 162 Registered: 16/06/06 3 Not with 100 buddies and with arty and CAS on call. There were those 2000 Korean missionaries who went to Afgh. for some peace parade a few years ago, but thankfully that got cancelled. On a slightly related note, there was an interesting vignette on the history channel or nat-geo on some guy who was the first to walk across the world in the 70 s with a buddy. family holiday wales

They did America, Europe, mid east and then his buddy got killed in Afghanistan. Eventually he did end up walking Afghanistan and around the world on his own and later with his wife. The moral of the story I don t know if there is one, but theres certainly a precedent for stupidity... Posted: 20-Dec-2007 19:27 4 I am hoping Afghanistan will be safer next year. Those Koreans, seems to me were there to provide aid, but also had some religious interests. Maybe that s why the Taliban kidnapped them. Did the Koreans have the protection of the local people holiday riding wales

The purpose of the walk should be free of religious and spiritual interests. I believe such a walking event would have to be approved by the local tribal leaders along the ring road highway. The participants in the walk will have to vow to obey all Pashtunwali codes, Sharia laws, etc, and ask for the protection of the local people. adventure holiday wales

Sooner or later Afghanistan will be normal, and people will do these things. There will be walks, marathons, races, tournaments, etc. People will participate in all the normal sporting events. Grahamw Posted: 20-Dec-2007 21:40 Posts: 2 Registered: 20/12/07 5 It sounds crazy because it is. I grant you that it would be interesting and the Taliban would love the publicity and the extra cash if you come from the right countries. holiday park south wales

The relations between the Afghan President and local leaders is one you should explore a little. Understand the way power structures work and how they dont. Pashtunwali codes may not be quite the thing in the central region. Will women on the walk where the Burka You are quite right that not all people in the south are bad but that isnt the point. There are sufficient Taliban and criminals to ensure that you do not get very far. Protection of local people is all very well but how will you know which side they are on and their relationships with other parties You will simply not be able to have the protection of local people over 1000 kims. And even if you did that would not stop the criminals and parts of the Taliban by seeing you as a meal ticket for life. cottage holiday wales

You say Sooner or later Afghanistan will be normal. It is normal, for Afghanistan. It is not simply waiting to become a country like yours. It is what it is. Of course it will change, every where does. But dont assume this chnage will somehow make them more like you. holiday in wales

As for the hope that Afghanistan will be safer next year..optimism is a good thing. However I have not read a single report even from the most on side US or UK think tanks which suggest it will be. There are plenty of countries where this sort of initiative may be welcome. believe me, Afghanistan is not one of them. Kabul electricnomad Posted: 22-Dec-2007 06:01 Posts: 78 holiday wales

Registered: 10/12/01 6 As for the hope that Afghanistan will be safer next year..optimism is a good thing. However I have not read a single report even from the most on side US or UK think tanks which suggest it will be. I agree that the original poster s optimism has no basis in reality. Security in Afghanistan got much worse this year, and it was already in very rough shape. You can hope all you want, but I haven t seen a single sign that things are going to get any better anytime soon. cottage holiday in wales

Additionally, the idea of foreigners making a public walk anywhere near Kandahar or through the south is absurd and reckless. There is certainly a chance that tribal leaders would promise up and down that you will be safe if you were to do something like this, but tribal leaders are used to telling foreigners what they want to hear - when the going gets tough, those tribal leaders will not lift a finger in your defense or even go to pick up your corpse. Friends and coworkers who dealt with southern tribal leaders would offer aid IF and only IF the tribal leaders who pleaded for assistance for their dangerous districts would personally accompany them in the aid agencies cars. After all, if these tribal leaders have such clout, they ll be able to get the word out, keep insurgents away, and let aid workers do their jobs, right Well virtually every time such a request was made, the tribal leaders declined. They would not put their money where their mouths were because they could not and would not protect foreigners from the people who want to harm them. In that sense, the tribal leaders you expect to help protect you are full of the same empty, groundless optimism that the original poster displays. caravan holiday in wales

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Posted: 22-Dec-2007 08:02 Posts: 140 Registered: 15/07/07 7 ok... so much for that... how about organizing the Mogadishu Marathon then next year Things ought to get better there! Posted: 22-Dec-2007 19:19 8 How about a Baghdad Bi-Athlon Things are exponentially safer than last year... No takers How about a Darfur Decathlon Things might improve there next year too... camping holiday wales

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- Pages: 1 - Last Post: 22-Dec-2007 19:15 Last Post By: LtWharf sfsk8boy Posted: 22-Dec-2007 11:42 Posts: 6 Registered: 17/09/02 Click to report abuse... Click to reply to this thread Print this Thread Hi there -- I know this is very last minute, but I m looking for accomodation in Fort Cochin for Dec. 29th until January 1st. I ve e-mailed several places and either received no response, or responses telling me there are no rooms available. Can I expect touts at the airport, or should I just get a prepaid taxi to Princess Street and walk until I find something. Any and all advice is appreciated. catering holiday self wales

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You can plan a city, but you can t give it buzz. Here are the capitals that got the nod but just can t get it shakin . Right now, the two major parties in the USA and Australia are fighting frenetic election campaigns over control of capitals that, if their nation s founders had had any sense, simply wouldn t exist. Washington DC has shocking social problems - its murder rate is scandalous - while Canberra, the progeny of Sydney and Melbourne s refusal to let the other be the capital, is ignored by most tourists, unsurprisingly, as its most famous attraction is a roundabout. holiday riding wales

But Canberra and Washington aren t the only badly-planned capitals. The folly and vanity of rulers has often been memorialised in cities that were supposed to be glorious but fell horribly short, condemning those forced to live there to gaze wistfully at the larger, more interesting cities. Here s a quick tour of some of the world s most poorly conceived capitals. adventure holiday wales

Abuja, Nigeria

Nigeria contains over 250 ethnic groups, many with a history of conflict, so it s not surprising that there was a movement towards an independent capital. But in 1975 the Nigerian Government chose a town smack-bang in the middle of the country, and decided to evict the entire Gwari population. The evictions continue to this day: the regional government forces locals to move by the thousands to the outskirts of Abuja. This attempt to avoid a descent into the overcrowding and chaos of the former capital, Lagos, has also succeeded in purging the city of what was a rich cultural heritage. holiday park south wales

As a result, the Nigerian capital s major tourist attraction is a 400m-high rock, which goes some way towards justifying Lonely Planet s assessment that there really isn t much to do in Abuja . (The city was still outraged, however, when it was beaten out by Glasgow in the bid for the 2014 Commonwealth Games.) cottage holiday wales

Bras lia, Brazil

The architect of this planned city in the middle of Brazil thought his design resembled a beautiful butterfly. Most people think it looks more like an aeroplane. But whatever Bras lia looks like, it s a classic illustration of the problems of planned capitals. Its builders achieved an extraordinary transformation of a desert site, but character has proved harder to come by. holiday in wales

Although its iconic modernist buildings - some by Oscar Niemeyer - have won the city a World Heritage Order, Bras lia offers little to those who aren t architecture buffs. There is the usual assortment of public institutions and a large artificial lake, but none of the excitement that draws so many to the rest of Brazil. Despite the best efforts of planners, you simply can t designate an area for buzz . holiday wales

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This city was founded in the 1960s because the then President, Ayub Khan, felt the country was too focused on Karachi (it is the tendency of all genuinely interesting capitals to dominate their nations). The city is cleaner and greener than anywhere else in Pakistan, and there is some pleasant modernist architecture, but the rigid central plan forgot to include any of the liveliness that attracts visitors to the subcontinent, instead aiming for the prettified (and sterile) aesthetic typical of many planned capitals. cottage holiday in wales

This lifelessness is most evident in the decision not to bother with suburb names, and instead to divide the city into alphanumeric sectors. Most diplomats are housed in sectors E-6 to E-18, for instance, while the major hospital is in G-8. caravan holiday in wales

Ottawa, Canada

Like most planned capitals, Ottawa arose from a political compromise. When it was chosen in 1857, it was the only settlement of any size on the border between the French- and English-speaking territories. But the choice seemed so arbitrary that a legend arose that Queen Victoria had chosen it by sticking a hairpin into a map. camping holiday wales

Though Ottawa has many highbrow but dull institutions, like the National Gallery and Arts Centre, its name is a synonym in Canada for boring - as you d expect in a city where most people work for the Federal Government. Worse still, Ottawa s second-largest employer is the high-tech sector, which helps explain why O-town (a nickname which may be a score out of ten rather than an abbreviation) is not exactly known for its nightlife. But what can you expect from a city that decided to call its busiest downtown sector Centretown accommodation holiday wales

Nay Pyi Daw, Myanmar (Burma)

Two years ago, Myanmar s bureaucrats were suddenly told they were relocating from Yangon (Rangoon) to a brand new capital, Nay Pyi Daw - and with 24 hours notice. It s not clear why the generals moved the capital; speculation ranges from fears of a seaborne invasion of Yangon to the advice of Senior General Than Shwe s soothsayers. It s located in a mountainous central region, in thick malaria-infested jungle; the city s only residents are public servants and the military, who are housed in bland, identical apartment blocks. holiday last minute wales

Much basic infrastructure is still missing - you can only get there on a military aircraft or by spending nine hours on the train from Yangon, and there are no international flights or mobile phone networks. The capital s major claim to fame is that, unlike the rest of Myanmar, it gets electricity 24 hours a day. If that doesn t thrill you, it isn t much worth visiting the city whose name, ironically, means Abode of Kings . catering holiday self wales

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